EP 587: My Buddy Briscoe (“Besieged by Idiots”)

Ramsey Russell: Welcome back to MOJO’s Duck Season Somewhere podcast, going all the way down to Texas, catching up with my buddy Joe Briscoe. JB Custom Calls. Joe, how the heck are you?

Joe Briscoe: I’m good, Ramsey. Good to hear your voice.

Ramsey Russell: I’d say it’s good to see you again, but it really ain’t. But I do like to hear from you now and again.

Joe Briscoe: Shut up. I mean, here I’ve been telling everybody how good you were. You called me every day I was in the hospital.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah. What the heck they ever figure out was wrong with you, Joe?

Joe Briscoe: Pneumonia was going to Sepsis.

Ramsey Russell: How you get something like that?

Joe Briscoe: I had no idea.

Ramsey Russell: I thought pneumonia was related to the flu or something.

Joe Briscoe: I don’t know. I mean, it was September, it was upper 70s, low 80s. I mean, I had the same question, I said, how the hell did I come up with this?

Ramsey Russell: Yeah. No, man, I mean, we thought you were carrying on like it was into the world. And what did you tell me you thought it was? Not pneumonia, it was like something else you had.

Joe Briscoe: Well, they said sepsis.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah.

Joe Briscoe: And I said, what is that? I said, you sure you’re not trying to say septic? I said, I got one of them in backyard, I know all about it.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah.

Joe Briscoe: But Sepsis, I had no idea.

I usually swing through Texas, we catch up there, we usually catch up there it over at Oyster Bayou with old Gene, and instead it was me and Gene and Sawyer and truth matters, we had a lot to talk about, but we talked about you a lot, do you know?

Ramsey Russell: That’s kind of it. I usually swing through Texas, we catch up there, we usually catch up there it over at Oyster Bayou with old Gene, and instead it was me and Gene and Sawyer and truth matters, we had a lot to talk about, but we talked about you a lot, do you know?

Joe Briscoe: Oh, boy. No wonder my ears were burning that week.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah. It wasn’t a Pneumonia, Joe. It was us. We had a lot of fun at your expense.

Joe Briscoe: That doesn’t surprise me.

Ramsey Russell: And had some good hunts. Not to rub salt in your moon. We had some real good hunt. Real quiet and tranquil and nature, like, hunts without your yammering.

Joe Briscoe: You’re the one that stirs up the yammering.

Ramsey Russell: No. But were you able to get out at all this year?

Joe Briscoe: Yeah. Oh yeah. You called me to set up a hunt. I was going to pimping on here today for DU Nation.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah.

Joe Briscoe: And John and his videographer came in. We went to Timmy’s blind, which you’ve hunted there. And man, it was lights out. We shot a 6 man blue wing, no, it was big duck season. So it was November 14^th and we got in there and Gene and I got the far right hand corner and he was on this side. He said, now remember, this is the hot corner, this is where they like to come break around right here. I said, okay, so I’m watching the corner. I’m taking directions very well. And he just kind of leaned up, he and I were in the same pit, he leaned up over my shoulder and said, look over your right shoulder. And I really easy, I looked over and it must have been 600 or 800 teal. It’s 2 minutes before the shooting time. I dove in the bottom of that pit and Gene’s just dying laughing. I said, man, I ain’t seen that many in a while.

Ramsey Russell: Are they on the water swimming up to the decoys or what?

Joe Briscoe: No, they came over broke and then went out north of there in that habitat.

Ramsey Russell: Now where’s Jimmy’s blind at? Is it off in the shallow fields, moist soil management fields too?

Joe Briscoe: Jimmy’s is down in the marsh.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah, that’s what I thought.

Yeah, Jimmy’s down in the marsh. We were at Timmy’s blind, you and I. In Tim’s blind, there we go. But the next group shooting time was on and it was about 500 teal.

Joe Briscoe: Yeah, Jimmy’s down in the marsh. We were at Timmy’s blind, you and I.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah.

Joe Briscoe: In Tim’s blind, there we go. But the next group shooting time was on and it was about 500 teal. So we shot that group, the next group was a group of gadwall, wigeon mixed, shot them. Next group was gadalls shot them. And then a group of pintails came in and did it right. We were locking the gate and it’s right there on ranch road, we were locking that gate at 07:30, we’d kill 36 good ducks. And then Rob trying to play Aqua man.

Ramsey Russell: Rob trying to play Aqua man. Tell me about Rob playing Aqua man. I hope they got that on camera for DU Nation.

Joe Briscoe: No, they didn’t. He turned around, he said, okay, I got to go before I get in the pit. So Tim said, be careful stepping off the back of that platform because it goes straight down. And sure enough, Rob had nothing on but knee boots and it filled them easily. He about halfway fell in them. Tim said, I told you.

Ramsey Russell: What do the blinds look like out there in the marsh? Because that’s one thing I’ve always loved about hunting over at Oyster Bayou, they’re blinds, you walk down those shallow levees, those little berms, and it’s like little built in baseball dugouts. Just as comfortable and hidden as humanly possible.

Joe Briscoe: Same thing.

Ramsey Russell: Really in the marsh?

Joe Briscoe: In the marsh, yeah. You’ve got 4, 2 man – Well, the guide blind is usually a 2 man in the middle. And then you have single man blinds on top of that. But Gene’s built them a little bit bigger and then they just finished 8 or 10 more to put in on a piece of property I told him about. And he would shoot it just every now and again. But with teal season coming on, all they had over there was a hot dog stand, right? So I said and –

Ramsey Russell: What do you mean a hot dog stand?

Joe Briscoe: Something on top of the levee with a bunch of cane and you jump around it.

Ramsey Russell: I see, like a skid blind or something.

Joe Briscoe: Pretty much. Anyway, I said that east Dunn blind, I said I’ve hunted it during teal season and it was dumb. I mean we went in there at 02:30PM and we’re out at 04:00PM and we had 30 and then we just went and sat in the truck till dark, just sat on the tailgate, drinking water. That was a year that we had the feds wanted to come in and do an aerial survey. That block of rice was a mile wide, north to south and east to west, it was 3 miles long. When they counted it, I mean, Ramsay, I ain’t kidding you, I could have called another 4 or 5 limits if I had a dip net at the truck, that’s how low they were flying. The count came back as 800,000.

Ramsey Russell: On 3 square miles.

Joe Briscoe: And it fed every guide service around there. It was crazy.

Ramsey Russell: Nobody was hunting it?

Joe Briscoe: Back then there was some guys that did and when I heard that they were calling it quits, I called Gene and I said, hey, if nobody’s told you, he said, nobody’s told me anything. I said, the Dunn property’s up for lease. And so he sure enough went over and grabbed it. And then we thought the Dunns are an older couple and somebody come to him, you know how it is with the money and the windmills and all that garbage. So he thought that they were probably going to lose it. And then at the last minute, those guys had paid him a considerable amount. And they said, hey, we’re going to move these offshore, so do whatever you were going to do.

Ramsey Russell: Really? Well, that’s good news.

Joe Briscoe: Oh, man, I don’t want to see them things. My buddy in the panhandle, he’s got 48 sections, and they hit him up every year. And he said the last time they showed up, he met them on the porch and he said, I’ve already told you, don’t come back because I have nothing for you.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah.

Joe Briscoe: And he sits real high on a bluff that overlooks the Canadian River Valley. And I said, man, this would be a great spot. He said, I’m sure it would, but we’re not interested.

Yeah. Those alternative energy forms are just swallowing up a lot of that old prairie out there around Houston, where all that rice was, where all that snow goose hunting was, where all that good teal habitat still is, I mean, it is. And I’ve heard some numbers of what that acreage is bringing, and neither rice farming nor duck hunting can compare.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah. Those alternative energy forms are just swallowing up a lot of that old prairie out there around Houston, where all that rice was, where all that snow goose hunting was, where all that good teal habitat still is, I mean, it is. And I’ve heard some numbers of what that acreage is bringing, and neither rice farming nor duck hunting can compare.

Joe Briscoe: Now, the Pierce ranch, which Shanghai Pierce, I don’t know, you probably never heard of him, he was a rancher, but he drove cattle from down there below, all the way to Dodge City. So he built that ranch in 1880, I believe it was. And so it took 2 generations before they said, all we’re going to do is cows now, the farming’s going to turn into a solar farm.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah. Isn’t that crazy?

Joe Briscoe: It’s nuts. I mean, these yeasts are going to get here and go, what the hell is this?

Ramsey Russell: How long have you lived outside of Houston, Joe?

Joe Briscoe: My whole life, except when I left and went off to school.

Ramsey Russell: And how big had the population grown in that greater Houston metropolitan area? Just in the last 10 years or 20 years.

Joe Briscoe: Oh, God. Ramsey, I built this house in 2006. And we had, out front, when you come in, we had all that rice out there. So that was 875 acres of rice, every year.

Ramsey Russell: It ain’t no more.

Joe Briscoe: No. And Mr. Joseph just decided he was going to get in on the money and do seed rice. And then they had enough of that and then our developer came in, and that’s all that’s in there now is house frames. All that rice is gone. But still, you can sit here in a driveway in the evenings and the whistlers are coming over treetop high, treetop, literally. And it used to be tree ducks and mottle ducks. So much for the mottled ducks, I hardly see them. And they’re going right back here behind me is the, it used to call HL&P Cooling pond and full of these monster redfish and that’s where the ducks go to roost in the warm water.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah.

Joe Briscoe: But I mean, it’s nothing when it gets like late August to see somewhere between 600, 700 coming over, going to roost in the evenings.

Ramsey Russell: That Texas corridor is absolutely the blue winged teal in the fall. There’s no doubt about it.

Ramsey, I used to sit out here right before goose season would start, the specks were tracking from the northwest and they were flying over the house. So I’d get out there with a speck call and play with them, hadn’t heard a speck here in 10 years.

Joe Briscoe: Ramsey, I used to sit out here right before goose season would start, the specks were tracking from the northwest and they were flying over the house. So I’d get out there with a speck call and play with them, hadn’t heard a speck here in 10 years. Not even a snow goose.

Ramsey Russell: Well, I mean, it’s been a long time since I told the story, but I first stretched my wings waterfowl hunting outside of Mississippi, going over to, I mean, basically I guess that was the west side of Houston, from Mississippi out there in that prairie to shoot snow geese back when the limit was 5. We shoot snow, shoot speck, shoot the blue, the blues and the snows and the ross geese. And boy, isn’t that something that back in those days, 5 geese would – we didn’t always get a limit of 5, but that was a lick when you did, you know what I’m saying? You were proud of it. And then in all them ensuing years, it’s gone to the conservation order and all that kind of stuff till full circle. Texas just recently took the spring conservation order off.

Joe Briscoe: Last year was it.

Ramsey Russell: Why you reckon they did that, Joe?

Joe Briscoe: I don’t know. I think there was a lot of pressure involved. And I know one guy that hunted them all the way to March 8^th or 15^th somewhere in there, and he stayed on a group that didn’t leave, it was like 10,000 birds.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah.

Joe Briscoe: And he chased them over 5 counties. But anybody that I’ve talked to, the first day is always the best. By Thursday, if that’s a Monday, which it always is Thursday, they’re out. They’re tired of getting hammered.

Ramsey Russell: It’s really just not so many snow geese or light geese flying down to that part of the world anymore to justify it. I mean, maybe a lot to do with it. The increased agriculture up north, the increased urban sprawl down in that Area, a lot of the geese have shifted.

Joe Briscoe: Yeah. I mean, so this year they had a group at the refuge that was, I don’t know, 5,000 or 6,000 geese, and they were getting harassed by 3 eagles, 1 adult and 2 juvies. And they roused them and roused them, fine, they go enough and they pull up out of the refuge and come to that habitat that Gene had put in that moist soil management stuff. Well, there was 11 eagles rousting them. I mean, they hardly got any piece at all. I would say there was probably less than a dozen speckle bellies killed at Oyster Bayou this year.

Ramsey Russell: Joe, weren’t you a goose guy back in the day? Back in old 5 goose days. You were a guy back before there was a conservation order season. Or did you guide also during the initial phases of conservation order?

Joe Briscoe: No, it was 5 light geese and 2 dark geese. And we usually kill all our specks in the spread. Nobody sets a spread over here anymore. There might be 4 or 5 guys that do that on the west side now, and that’s it.

Ramsey Russell: Well, what did you all spread look like back then? Like what did a Joe Briscoe goose spread look like back in the good old days?

Joe Briscoe: 500 G&H shells, some rags on a stick for movement, like the whole back end we had it moving. I learned it all from Tracy, and Reese.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah.

Joe Briscoe: So that’s pretty much. And then we would put a group of specks up near the point of the spread, kind of off the shoulder, and we always kill our specks. There was one hunt, and I brought absolutely nothing to the lodge. I had come to help, Tracy says, spreads day after Christmas, and Sonny come out of the beach house with this grin on his face, he said, boy, am I glad to see you. I said, why? He said, I got you a hunt tomorrow. I said, Sonny, I didn’t bring anything. I didn’t bring decoys, I didn’t bring dog, guns. He said, start that list again. I said, I didn’t bring my dog, he said, you get to hunt with Ty, nobody hunted Ty. It was kind of like, you and Char. I mean, nobody hunts Char. You know what I mean? And I said, well, I didn’t bring a gun. He says, A5 up in the beach house, go get it. I said, I’m bringing shells. I mean, I’m looking for every excuse because all I want to do is set a spread and go to bed, because that’s pretty much the only day you got off. And he said, look, you have a sports writer, it’s Billy Housing, I said, okay. He was from Beaumont, but he wrote – you know how those guys write for all the publications back then, before the Internet. He said, go in over there at Fitzgerald’s, those geese have been in there for 2 weeks in that uncut rice, nobody’s bothered them. I said, okay. So I went in there with 600 rags and I said, this is going to be a disaster. Because it was clear blue, no wind, we had our 25 plus 10 pintails pretty quick. And man, Billy was just beside himself. He said, I’d have never thought we’d have kill them geese today. And I said, well, what I didn’t tell him was, there was a girl down there doing her master’s thesis on goose migration. And they had put like the duck that you sponsored that pintail, that you sponsored that they’re tracking.

Ramsey Russell: Rosa. That’s what her name. I call her Rosa. I got put on the spot, Joe. I was out there white winged dove hunting in Mexico. Greer Smith of 50 Ducks said, hey, do you want to do this? I go, heck yeah. He said, well, what do you want to name a pintail? I said, bubba. He said, but it’s a girl. I said, oh. And she come from Mexico City, and I don’t know where I come up with the name Rosa, but. But that’s the first name would come to mind while I was out there in between volleys of shooting white winged doves, so the name stuck. But it’s been kind of crazy keeping up with that thing. I mean, it’s like, man, couple days later, it was sitting on a Choctaw Nation Indian reservation in Oklahoma City, and now it is up around Jamestown, North Dakota. We don’t know if it’s going to sit, try to nest if it found water, but it’s really kind of interesting. Like some of the technology he showed. Like he tracked his route and it flew over two high school football fields. I’m just imagining, people sitting out there, I don’t know, during mid-morning break or cheerleading practice or spring training or whatever you do on a football field when it ain’t the fall, never knowing that rows of the pintail was flying right over. That’s crazy, isn’t it?

Joe Briscoe: Yeah, well –

Ramsey Russell: And somebody wrote on set, said man, I played football on that field. He knew exactly where it was, he played football on it. And I don’t know, it’s very interesting to me keeping up with that duck, but go ahead. So you’re talking about a grad student.

Joe Briscoe: What this girl had done is they met at a group and there were some that were together. They put those saddles on them, that’s what they had back then. And the tracking machine was like this big look like military surplus tracker.

Ramsey Russell: That’s probably what it was.

Joe Briscoe: Had like 6 circles for an antenna. All those birds got in our marsh, after I shot them. They moved over and that happened every year and when you’re holding the whole east side roost on your property – anyway, I ended up killing one that was just collared. It was one of that group. Well, she come in there and it had gone, it had gotten really foggy. So all the geese were down on the north end of Robinson Lake at Canterbury Ranch. And she starts doing this with that machine, there’s 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, all 6 radio trackers are in this marsh. And the person that hated shooting snow geese the worst was Burl. And of course Burl was one that shot one with the tracker.

Ramsey Russell: I’ll be darn. I wonder if he saw it when he shot it.

Joe Briscoe: Probably not till the dog brought it back.

Ramsey Russell: Some of my favorite morning shooting snow geese have been in the fog. And one of my most memorable times, I wish I could remember who I was hunting with back in those days, heck, I was in college and it was foggy, pea soup fog, which didn’t stop him from driving, the guy driving from Katy, Texas did not stop him from driving 92.5 miles an hour down those county roads. And we get there and you can hear the geese, but you can’t see them in the fog. He said, we’re in plenty good shape. And the wind was, what little wind it was, was kind of blowing from them to us, so he felt safe. And we set up and man, just stare and they’d appear low on the deck right in the decoys. And I think he piled about 8 or 9 of us in that spread. And it was just those old cheap staple to bottom together socks, back in the day and we shot a big limit. And by the time we picked up, the fog had cleared and we were 100 yards from the roost, but they still came off in little flocks, all morning till we got our limit, it was magical. Which that was a big freaking deal back in those days to kill 5 snow geese and 2 specks, that was a really big deal. Like going out shooting 6 ducks in the Mississippi Flyway, that was a big freaking deal.

There was one of those real foggy mornings, real close to the same spot that I set up for that hunt with a sports writer. Oh, that hunt to finish, that ended up going in 4 magazines.

Joe Briscoe: There was one of those real foggy mornings, real close to the same spot that I set up for that hunt with a sports writer. Oh, that hunt to finish, that ended up going in 4 magazines. So that was a big deal back then, we have the Internet, right? And Sonny said, did you give that man his collar? I said, well, of course not, I shot it. I’m not going to do a draw for a collar, it’s a rarity.

Ramsey Russell: Typical Texas guide back in the day. Typical Texas goose guide back in the day, Joe, kept the hardware.

Joe Briscoe: I tell you what –

I hunted with somebody down there one time, it wasn’t you. But one of my biggest impressions, most lasting impressions of way back in the day goose hunting was we went down there, the big crowd of us, I don’t know, I can’t remember the name of the outfit, just one in bunches out of that area. 

Ramsey Russell: I hunted with somebody down there one time, it wasn’t you. But one of my biggest impressions, most lasting impressions of way back in the day goose hunting was we went down there, the big crowd of us, I don’t know, I can’t remember the name of the outfit, just one in bunches out of that area. And all I remember is that boy, that guy had the fastest yellow dog I had ever seen. And it was trained to go. It’s like the dog was not only fast, he could read the group’s mind. Like he knew 2.5 seconds before the shot was called that it was fixing to be called. And by the time you pull the first trigger, that dog was already clearing the decoys looking for dead geese. And of course, he couldn’t mark.

Joe Briscoe: Absolutely. I never held a dog –

Ramsey Russell: He couldn’t mark while he was in a full gallop. And I had my old Delta black lab at the time and of course she was marking. And just as case may have it, she was sitting there beside me when the guns went off and the geese fell, she marked. And while the other fool was running around looking for dead birds that he hadn’t marked, she was picking them up. And I may must picked up three to one for what that yellow dog did. But at the end of the hunt, that guy literally came up to me, that guide literally came up to me and under his breath whispered, how many bands did you get with that old fast dog? That’s what he said to me. How many bands did I get? Like I wouldn’t, we were all shooting into the flock, like I wouldn’t have thrown them out and let’s draw for them or something, you know what I’m saying? And I’m like, man, I saw all kinds of stuff back in those days. One of the funniest stories was we were all lined up around a pond one time, I don’t know what it was, a levied up pond. And it just kind of reverted into everybody spreading out past shooting because the hunt fell apart and birds weren’t behaving right. And somebody sailed a snow goose and the guy’s dog went and got it. The dog ran across the water, picked up the bird, jumped on the levee and was running, and I mean just the angle of the sun, that band on that snow goose’s leg was as visible and everybody’s calling to it and the dog’s running past him and he got to the last hunter before he got back in the water to come out to the blind. And old boy was sitting there eating a honey bun and threw it down on the levee and that dog slammed on brakes, drop the goose to get the honey bun and that client picked up the goose and got the band. That’s pretty smart.

Joe Briscoe: There’s always different ways of doing it, I guess.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah. That dog apparently liked honey bun.

Joe Briscoe: It’s pretty cool to shoot one. I mean, I’ve got what was left of my lanyard from 30 years ago and these kids nowadays, it’s all about, oh we got to kill someone some jewelry. And I said, well you might need to go somewhere in the spots and you know that’d be a better chance.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah.

Joe Briscoe: Not many wood ducks down here carrying bands anymore.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah.

Joe Briscoe: That I’ve heard about. But I don’t know, I always kind of thought it was overrated. I really cared more about shooting the birds than I did if they were banded.

Ramsey Russell: I don’t go out there and target bands, but it’s always fun when they come in one. I don’t know what it is about it. It’s something about it. And I don’t know, it’s just when you see one on there, well, that’s a bonus, you know? And Joe, change the sub real quick. Last couple of years, you’ve been tied up dealing with your daddy, tell everybody about that a little bit. The first episode we ever did together, you grew up in Louisiana, and you talked about, you really didn’t duck hunt, your people quail hunted, and they throw all the –

Joe Briscoe: No, I grew up here in Texas. But every time that, my dad, my uncle would go home in Louisiana, we all went. And he was either playing music or going to shoot quail, one of the two.

Ramsey Russell: I just remember you talking about your people throwing the bird dogs in the back of the Ford LTD or something in the trunk.

Joe Briscoe: A 65 Impala with the lock, knocked out of the trunk and a piece of rope.

Ramsey Russell: And during your younger years, did you also duck hunt with your daddy? Did he teach you the ways, you all duck hunted, goose hunted, bird hunted?

Joe Briscoe: When that came around, that’s when we had a lot of geese. And back then, you could just lease a piece of property, you were going to kill geese on it.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah.

Joe Briscoe: You know that’s kind of how it was. And that’s what we did. Dad wasn’t a big, I mean, like I said, it was quail when I was growing up. Now, here’s one of the stories I was telling you about.

Ramsey Russell: Wait a minute. Go ahead.

Joe Briscoe: Break-break. Go ahead.

Ramsey Russell: No. Well, I was just going to say, I was going to catch everybody up. You grew up hunting with your daddy and apparently you all were hunting pals, shooting geese, stuff like that. But the last few years of your life have not been easy because he got older. Just walk people through how you’ve been consumed. I mean, you left a great job selling pipe and retreated to your shop when you had time. But I know that, Joe I’m going to say, almost it since I’ve known you, this has been an ongoing caregiving drama that, somebody had to take care of him and you did.

Joe Briscoe: It started in 2015 when he had an Afib he had an episode, and then we got him over that, and it wasn’t a year later they diagnosed him with lymphoma. Well, so they set him up a treatment. They said, look, you’re stage 4. And I said, man, this is going to be rough.

Ramsey Russell: They told him that in 2015?

Joe Briscoe: No, it was 2019.

Ramsey Russell: Okay.

Joe Briscoe: It was taking him a while to get his heart back right. And then they diagnosed him in late 2018, early 2019. And I said, it’s going to be a rough go. You can’t do it by yourself. I’d already taken his driving license away from him because he had 2 little minor fender benders because he couldn’t turn his neck anymore.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah. How old was he, Joe?

Joe Briscoe: The leading cause of lymphoma. When he passed away, he was 88.

Ramsey Russell: Wow.

Joe Briscoe: And for the 5 years, that’s all I did. I mean, we were in the hospital 1, 2, 3 times a week sometimes. And the leading cause of lymphoma is Roundup.

Ramsey Russell: Really?

Joe Briscoe: There was a concentrate and the plant he worked at, they made all those chemicals for Roundup, they even had a store. You could buy it a big time discount, but it was one certain one, it was a concentrate. And I said, you know what? I’m going to call law firm, I’m going to find out. So, yeah, sure enough, dad said, they could have told us, they could have told us. But that’s where he was to make a living to feed his family, plain and simple. But the lymphoma was gone, he didn’t have any cancer, they’d given him a drug to protect his lungs from getting pneumonia because his immune system was down. And I found this out by accident, but the pharmacist called me because he was in the hospital. She said, I want to go over, his daily meds. I said, sure. She started rattling them off, I go, yes, I don’t know what that is. I said, that’s something the hospital gives you. And she said, man, the worst side effect about this is low blood sugar. My dad’s never had a blood sugar issue in his life, I mean, ever. And it got down to 42. We put him in an ambulance, took him to the hospital that was here, and I didn’t wait very long before I said, here’s what you’re going to do, you’re going to go tell that charge nurse that you want an ambulance that will take him to MD Anderson ICU, that’s where we’re going. Sir, we’ll get him lined out and we get him upstairs. I said, you ain’t getting him upstairs. You go see the charge nurse or I will. And I said, when I’m finished, you’ll have a letter in your file trying to pump the – he had a port for his chemo and anything else they gave him, but this idiot put saline going in there. And he reached and gave dad an IV, which was a no-no. His old skin was about as thick as paper then.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah.

Joe Briscoe: And I said, that’s it. This stuff was like molasses and they’re trying to pump it down through this IV. And I went, no, that ain’t going to work. I said, so tell the charge nurse, 30 minutes, we had an ambulance there, he was downtown, 3 days later, the doctor called me, she said, Joe, he’s not responsive at all. And I said, what is it? Well, I think he had a stroke. Well, it turns out they had a really good doctor there for it. And he said, no, it’s not your normal stroke where one side of your face falls or the other, you know. So it was a linear stroke, which I’d never heard of. I said, all right, break it down to simplistics here. And he said, well, about the worst thing you’re going to see is, is his speech is going to be somewhat messed up. Okay, well, his speech was already messed up with that accent, not many people could understand. The nurses especially, they look at me and go, what did he say? So, yeah, it did mess it up a little bit. And the last night that I saw him, I walked in, I said, how’s our patient doing? He was in a cut off room, I guess. He was all by himself, the nurses station was outside the room, because in 4 years, going on 5, I worked my butt off to make sure that he didn’t get COVID. And what happened? He got COVID at the hospital. And I said, well, how’s he doing? He’s confused, he’s talking real confused. I said, really? I said, let me go in there, I’ll find out. They said, well, you need this gown, I said, no I don’t. So I’ll walk in, they said, he’s been doing this for 48 straight hours. So I walk in, I hear him talking French, and I said, okay. And I walked up to the bed and I said, pop, you need anything? He just turned around and looked away. I said, oh, boy. I had to dig deep so I could remember how to say it in French. And I asked him in French, he turned around, he said, had a big smile on his face. He said, oh, no, I’m just talking to your uncle, his twin brother had passed away 15 years prior. And he said, I’m talking to you, Uncle Carol and Uncle John. Uncle John died before I was born.

And he’s talking in French the whole time. I said, well, I don’t think we’re long for this. And I left out there about 07:30 PM and they called me at 12:30 AM that he had passed. And it’s just the way it is. It’s life.

Ramsey Russell: So from 2019 to what, 2024? 5 years. I mean, you were kind of his shuttle buddy and kept appointments and took good care of him for 5 years, Joe.

Joe Briscoe: Oh, yeah.

Ramsey Russell: Made up for all them years he had to lug Baby Huey out to the quail hunt. You told that story, too.

Joe Briscoe: Yeah, they had piggyback me in field, I was a string bean man.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah.

Joe Briscoe: But my one regret, not really a regret, it’s just life, I buried him on my birthday. It’s just the way it worked out. Yeah, just the way it worked out. And the one thing I really miss, I get my ass chewed out every day and I go, what are you chewing on me for? I just got here, I hadn’t done anything. He said, the day ain’t over yet.

Ramsey Russell: That’s right.

Joe Briscoe: He said, I’m getting ahead of it.

Ramsey Russell: Was he like that your whole life?

Joe Briscoe: To a certain extent. As I got older, in my teens and into my 20s, yeah. My dad came out of the army and he was changed. Thank God he didn’t have to go to war, they got as far as Seattle and they called the ceasefire for Korea. But he was just stern, and I think I’m better for it.

Ramsey Russell: Oh, yeah. He wasn’t stern enough, in my opinion.

Joe Briscoe: Boy, good thing you over there.

Ramsey Russell: You were going to tell me a funny story before we fell off into that. Tell me a good, funny story, a good funny memory of your daddy.

Joe Briscoe: All right. So my dad and my uncle were in the army. And when they left, my uncle, for some reason, left like 3 weeks earlier than my dad, I mean, they went in at the same time. My uncle got home, and my dad called him from there. He said, anything around there to hunt? He said, yeah. He said, I checked the pond, he said, it’s loaded with ducks. He said, okay. Well, all they shot was model 12. So my dad gets home, my uncle wanted to make sure they were there. So he went and put out a dozen decoys and about a dozen caged mallards on the bank and they were making all the racket. He didn’t tell my dad any of that. So he said, all right, they’re there. He said, I’m going to count to 3 and we shoot. Dad said, okay. One, two, three, dad shot every decoy, shot all the cage birds. He said, what the hell did you do? He said, oh, I forgot to tell you, I put those in there, so we have some attraction.

Ramsey Russell: I bet you grew up hearing that story told a few times.

Joe Briscoe: That was one of my uncle’s favorite, because my dad would just sit there and he’d fume. I mean, he gets mad. He said, if you’d have told me that had never happened.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah. Was it intentional?

Joe Briscoe: No, that was in Louisiana.

Ramsey Russell: No. Was that a practical joke on your dad?

Joe Briscoe: Oh, no. My uncle just, it slipped his mind. It slipped his mind, but it turned out to be funny. But another good story, I was about probably 10 or 11, and we always went to Sam Raymond Lake and we fished the jungle. And it was late one afternoon one day, and the water was just flat, it had to been about May and we were dumping some good fish on top waters, and dad gets to watching this woodpecker. This woodpecker would fly out to a hole and go, pop, pop, and one would fly out, and then this one that was holding on to the tree would go in, and they’re feeding babies. So dad eased up there when they switched, dad easy eased up there, put the dip net over the hole and knocked on the tree. And, boy, it was on. He’s got this woodpecker and he finally gets him to where he still and ties the net down a little more, he reaches in there and gets him. He said, man, is he pretty. And that piece of skin right there between your thumb and your forefinger that woodpecker grabbed a hold of it and dad’s screaming and he took that woodpecker and he dumped it in the water, and then he turned him loose. I never quit telling that story. It was so funny. And it was just me and him. So when we got back to the campsite, I said, no, he ain’t going to believe this. I’ll tell you what happened. And he got a good laugh out of it. He went to telling it. So those two were a pair. I wish I had, after they both became widowers, I wished I’d have had the Walmart surveillance tape from when they used to go shopping together. So they would always get in a big argument in the middle of Walmart.

Ramsey Russell: What would they argue over?

Joe Briscoe: Oh, God. Well, I ran into a friend of mine, he said, hey, I saw your dad at Walmart yesterday. I said, you go talk to him. He goes, no way, man, he was screaming, he was mad. So I left there and I went by dad’s house, said, hey, what happened in Walmart yesterday? He said, what do you mean? I said, you all got in a big screaming match. He said, I told him to buy that chicken right there, that chicken was on sale. And your uncle said, but I don’t like what’s on sale, I like this other one. Those two, they were two of a kind.

Ramsey Russell: Two of a kind. Give me one more story. It got to be a good one, I can’t imagine.

Joe Briscoe: Let’s see.

Ramsey Russell: I wish they were here to tell stories about you.

Joe Briscoe: Oh, God. They used to come over and we sit at the table on the back porch, and they’d drink their beer and their little brother would come, who was from New Iberia that made bows, he made me a bow and we were just back there shooting. So they were here all the time. My uncle worked for Brown and Root, ran the paint department for God knows how many years. And it must have been 1972 Dolph Briscoe was elected governor. Well, they live next door to each other since they built houses side by side in 1967. And my uncle came running over one day, said Dolph, did you get one of these invitations? He said, what’s it to? He said, the Governor’s Ball. He said, it’s for Dolph. Dolph Briscoe. The dad said I’d give one of them. Well, my uncle, I’m sure somewhere some campaigner got the list of employees from Brown and Root and there stood out a Briscoe. So my uncle got it. My uncle got the invite. And they could be sitting out there drinking beer in the evenings. And before I’d leave, I’d go, hey, remind me again, who was it that got the invitation to the Governor’s Ball? Oh, boy, them too. They got mad. One time my uncle said, I’m leaving and I’m dying laughing and stirred it up.

Ramsey Russell: Well, he got the invitation, did he actually go?

Joe Briscoe: No.

Ramsey Russell: He didn’t go.

Joe Briscoe: No, he didn’t go. I don’t need to be there with Mr. Brown. My uncle wanted my dad. But we would always go to Rayburn. And I had a buddy of mine with me. So we was all fishing and they were sitting up late at the picnic table. I said, I’m going to bed, if we’re getting up early, go fishing we were about 12 and my uncle had been pestering me all day. I said, I’m going to get even. So we had a double decker set of cots that we slept on, the kids slept on and they had their army cots. So I pulled his sleeping bag back -remember when Cheetos came out in those cans?

Ramsey Russell: Yeah.

Joe Briscoe: Kind of like a Pringles can, but it Cheetos, 4 inches around. I opened one of them up and I poured the whole can in that sleeping bag. Pulled it back over real quiet and I got up there and I said, I ain’t going to sleep yet. And he come in there and they were pretty lit when they went to bed. And I heard him pull that thing back, they had no lights on in there. And just a big crunch, he said, that little bastard. My dad said, what do you mean? What happened? He said, he put a whole can of Cheetos in my sleeping bag. He said, you little bastard, I’m up here laughing. And it was so funny, dad even started laughing.

Ramsey Russell: Never know a moment.

Joe Briscoe: Never ever.

Ramsey Russell: You’ve been making duck calls a long time, Briscoe. What’d your dad and uncle and them folks think of it?

Joe Briscoe: Well, dad came over, David and I were here tuning speck calls, dad said, I want to come over and see this mill. I said, okay, well, come on, we’re outside, we’re grilling sausage, make sausage wraps. And him and my uncle came in, and of course, my dad gotten pretty grumpy by then, and he said, pull that chair up right there so I can see that computer screen. I said, okay. And I said, I got to go flip sauces. So David was in here with him, and my dad would watch a computer screen and then watch the mill and then watch the screen and then watch the mill. And David said, Mr. Calvin, what do you think about that machine? He said, I can tell you what, if somebody asked me what I’m doing 30 years from now, and I told them I was sitting here watching my son make duck calls with a computer, they had me drug tested.

Ramsey Russell: What was your daddy’s flavor of spirit? What spirit did he imbibe? Was he a scotch man like yourself?

Joe Briscoe: He drank scotch. He really liked Wild Turkey.

Ramsey Russell: Wild Turkey.

Joe Briscoe: That’s why he always had plenty there, because I wasn’t going to mess with him.

Ramsey Russell: That’s why. He knew better to bring whatever you drank around.

Joe Briscoe: Well, that and he made homemade wine. Now, my buddies, when I come home from school, they want to go to the bar, they said, we’re coming to your house. Okay, come get me. And they were just coming there to get to drink wine before they go to bars, you weren’t spending money.

Ramsey Russell: Wow. He made homemade wine.

Joe Briscoe: Homemade wine. 25% to the bottom. They were snockered when we leave the house.

Ramsey Russell: What would the muscadine wine or what?

Joe Briscoe: Believe it or not, he’s Welch’s grape juice concentrate. The frozen one.

Ramsey Russell: Really?

Joe Briscoe: Yeah. But he did make some peach one time, and they had gone to my grandparents, and I walked in the house and I said, what in the hell is that smell? I don’t know. I wasn’t there to figure it out, I was there to get my stuff and go to the lodge. And when I came back from hunting, he said, I can’t believe you didn’t clean none of that up. I said, clean what up? And he had bottled it a little bit too soon. And he put it in the bottom of the closet because it was a nice cool space and every one of those bottles broke, every one of them burst with pressure, and it took the coloring out of the floor. I said, how am I supposed to, I didn’t even know you bottled that. I said, I’ve been at the lodge. He said, I can’t believe you didn’t. And one of my dad’s favorite saying was, I’m Besieged by Idiots.

Ramsey Russell: Besieged by Idiots. I may name the episode that, because that’s how I feel every time my phone rings and you’re on the other end. No offense or nothing.

Joe Briscoe: Yeah, whatever.

Ramsey Russell: Besieged by Idiots.

Joe Briscoe: I don’t remember who said it, I think it was Fred on an episode of Fred Sanford and it stuck with him.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah, Fred.

Joe Briscoe: So anytime one of us kids would screw up, I’m besieged by idiots. Nobody knew what he wanted done the way he wanted it done.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah.

Joe Briscoe: So we were idiots, because we didn’t know what.

Ramsey Russell: What’s going on in JB Custom Calls world right now. I talked to you the other evening when you called, and I was temporarily besieged by idiot. And you were telling me about a new 4 on 1 call you got coming.

Joe Briscoe: Yeah, I’m going to come out with a whistle, it’s based on an old Iverson design. Kind of what you see a lot of guys making now, but all wood, it’ll be bodark, it’ll be good. A teal whistle, which they don’t pay attention to at all.

Ramsey Russell: But people like to blow them.

Joe Briscoe: Yeah. Pintail, mallard drake and a wigeon. I’ve never had one you can make a wigeon sound with like that. This one, I don’t know if you looked at Instagram the other night, but this one I made for Tracy, it’s got to go to the engraving.

Ramsey Russell: What is that a gadwall call? What is that?

Joe Briscoe: No, that’s duck call.

Ramsey Russell: A duck call? Is that the new single reed?

Joe Briscoe: He jumped in line in front of you.

Ramsey Russell: Oh, I see how it is. You told me the other night I get the first single reed, now I’m getting number 2. If you ain’t first, you last.

Joe Briscoe: This ain’t going to be a single reed, knucklehead.

Ramsey Russell: Oh, okay.

Joe Briscoe: It’s a double. It’s a cross cut barrel, and I’ve already tried this.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah, you’re buffering A little bit. Go ahead.

Joe Briscoe: It’s pretty – I’m sorry?

Ramsey Russell: No, go ahead. Your system was buffering just a little bit, but go ahead.

Joe Briscoe: I made this thing a long time ago, probably about 2007 or 2008. And somebody said, when are you going to make another one? And I said, not till I figure out how to make a bunch of them at one time. Because this took 2.5 hours. I mean, it was early when I was doing this, but I wanted one.

Ramsey Russell: Let me hear it.

Joe Briscoe: I don’t pull the wedge.

Ramsey Russell: Oh, I see. Good luck selling that one.

Joe Briscoe: Besieged by idiots.

Ramsey Russell: Exactly. But you do got a single reed coming out.

Joe Briscoe: Yes. Yeah, we’re coming out with a tone board one day and I actually could get along with it. And not that I’m ever going to blow it. I mean, I’m going to blow double till I die.

Ramsey Russell: Double reed sound ducky. I mean, I will give you that, they do. They sound ducky.

Joe Briscoe: The sound. And then we started tricking them out a little bit and feeder dry. David St. John workshopped it at Elite Calls. I said, man, when you get a mallard, send me a set of feet, dry them out and paint them. He said, okay, I’ll do that. Well, what I’m going to do is when we trick it out, I call it voodooing it. So I’m going to go hobby store and get some feathers and attach these two feet and act like I’m doing a voodoo prayer over going. You know what that means?

Ramsey Russell: No. Besieged by idiots?

Joe Briscoe: Don’t let go of the potato.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah.

Joe Briscoe: It don’t mean nothing. But if you don’t know French, it doesn’t matter. You think, man, he’s doing some weird stuff over here, but it works.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah. I was talking to a boy the other day from Florida, Shannon Kelly, he makes a pretty killer pintail whistle himself, come up with a very unique design.

Joe Briscoe: You told me about that.

Ramsey Russell: He was telling me about, I was asking him what future project -? In fact, I asked him, what species in North America seem most unrepresented by duck calls? Because everybody’s looking. I mean, like I heard a call online the other day, I saw it just yesterday, somebody had made like a flute looking call that is spot on oscillated turkey. And I’ve never ever seen a call that would emulate that as perfectly. Now for those of you all listening that never heard an oscillated turkey go, look it up. It’s kind of like a crane, but it ain’t. And it’s a really nice call. And I appreciate that everybody is coming up with these different calls for these underrepresented species, which reminded me, how’s the not so top secret JB Calls, spoony call going? I mean, I told him, JB’s working on one.

Joe Briscoe: Well, I’m waiting on you.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah, the JB Baloney Snatcher. The JB calls Baloney Snatcher.

Joe Briscoe: We’re waiting on your decoy carver to send one.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah. I think it’s going to be a smash. You’ve got enough experience hunting them. You’ve got the pitch and the tone dialed in perfectly. And what were you telling me? I was saying, like, sometimes you go, tut, tut and sometimes you make these different things into a call to get the sound you want. And you were telling me that in this call you say, baloney? Is that what it was Baloney? And it makes the shoveler call?

Joe Briscoe: Oh, you said you shoot more spoonies than anybody I know.

Ramsey Russell: Well, yeah.

Joe Briscoe: You know what they sound like.

Ramsey Russell: I know, exactly.

Joe Briscoe: I had to look up.

Ramsey Russell: Most of the shovelers I shoot, all I hear them say is splash when they hit the water.

Joe Briscoe: With those 28 gauge shells that turn your gun into a single shot?

Ramsey Russell: No, man, that 20 Benelli eats them like M&M, son. I guarantee you it does. But I don’t need one shot to shoot shoveler, I think the sound sometimes makes them fall.

Joe Briscoe: Well, I’m telling you, I looked it up, I even called you, I said, man, I don’t know what to do about this. I said, have you ever heard a true spoonie? And he went, no.

Ramsey Russell: I really haven’t heard them. But I’ve got an Azeri guide named Tofi.

Joe Briscoe: Oh, yeah.

Ramsey Russell: And I have put this video online before, I may do it again sometime in the near future of him. Because they don’t have calls. I mean, they don’t have nothing. Man, they are hunting with the absolute fundamental basics of duck hunting by necessity. But it’s so interesting, I’ve hunted with him 3 or 4 times over there. And like, we all got our lights on before getting sorted at the truck and getting in the boat, and the minute he shoves off of that push pole, the light goes off. We’re push poling for 45 minutes off in this vast marsh. And you’ll hear a songbird or a mud hen or an animal, a little nutria rat or something off in the darkness and he’ll start talking to it. And this year there was a little one of them nutria rats mowing. And I don’t know what he said when he talked to it back, but he got that son of a gun all fired up, it went from meowing like a cat to roaring like a lion. He got it all fired up. But he doesn’t have any calls at all. Matter of fact, this year, Joe, just long story short, we all show up with our guide, we all convene at the launching point and because the season had only been open 2 weeks and everybody wanted to duck hunt, their buddies had showed up that morning or the day before, whatever, and borrowed their boats and their push poles and everything. So they were scrambling trying to find some way to go. Me and Tofi come up without a boat, he went and set up somewhere and boy, it was a nice morning. It was a good morning, it was cold, it was windy, we shot some ducks but it didn’t help that the wind was in our face at all. I hate hunting with the wind in my face. But the man knows how to shoot ducks, he put them out far enough, they swing. But a flock of mallards come in and wanted to pitch into the wind to the other side of the hole and to where we were. And I was getting on to him with that call and they turn to react a little bit and he just kind of pushed me, telling me to shut up. He started calling with his mouth. And I’m telling you he turned those birds where my calling would not, I ain’t no world class caller, but can call a freaking mallard duck. He turned them and they pitched into the decoys with a tailwind and those were our mallards for the day. And we were carrying on over Google Translate later. And I blew my call and said, my call’s just fine, don’t be pushing me. And he goes, it’s in English, that was his excuse. He says, your call speak English and my mouth call speaks Azeri and these ducks want to hear Azeri. But when a pochard flies over a shelduck flies over ferruginous pochard goes by, shoveler goes by, he has got the most spot on dialed in wigeon whistle with his mouth vocalizations I’ve ever heard. And it’s not like we would blow a wigeon call, it ain’t like that at all. He goes into another whistle and every single wigeon when they hear, pitches, every one of them. I’ve never seen, I’m not saying if they’re a mile high and he’ll call it those two. I’m talking about the workable ducks, he whistles and they come in. He’ll whistle and bark at the green wings, he’s all in, son. And when a shoveler flies by, he goes into something that sounds like, he starts making a guttural sound. And that’s what he, the master of the universe that speaks the language of the marsh, he’s heard him calling and that’s what he goes into when he’s calling shoveler. I can kind of imagine me blowing into a JB Custom Calls baloney snatcher and kind of guttering the word baloney into it. So I think you own to something, Joe, I think you own to it, son. Stick with it. Don’t give up yet. If anybody can come up with the world’s best and only shoveler call, it’s going to be my buddy Briscoe.

Joe Briscoe: I’m besieged by an idiot in Mississippi.

Ramsey Russell: Joe, I miss seeing you this fall. We normally do this in person, we’ll do it in person next time I see you. Me and Sawyer and heck, everybody over there at Oyster Bayou, Mr. Gene, everybody, we were all sitting there saying, here we were having a great visit you weren’t there and yet we all knew each other by introductions from Joe Briscoe. You bring a lot of people together, you’ve brought a lot of interesting characters into my life. Now it is kind of scary.

Joe Briscoe: I’m surprised they even talk to you.

Ramsey Russell: No, they talked to me.

Joe Briscoe: I tell you, you and Gene are cut from the same piece of cloth. I mean, you know what he’s trying to do as far as moist soil management. I mean, you know it. And Rob’s working with a couple of people doing the same type thing. Gene got the weir fixed for the marsh, I told you that. It’s going to be pretty dumb back there this year.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah. He got that habitat figured out. And Rob and I connect on a lot of history and duck storage and stuff like that. I mean, just sitting around Oyster Bayou with or without the Briscoe kid, it just does remind me that birds of a feather flock together. It really, truly does. I mean, we’ll sit out there in the shop and talk for hours.

Joe Briscoe: Yeah.

Ramsey Russell: And hours and hours. And this year, we were all disappointed you didn’t get to meet Stutzonbacher, who you helped, legendary biologist from Texas.

Joe Briscoe: I met Stutz the year before, but I know this last time you got a podcast with him, but I admitted on the – he came down there and visited, I think he’s 92 or 93 now?

Ramsey Russell: Yeah. Working on a book. Final pictures of putting together another book, too.

Joe Briscoe: I walked in the office one day, and Gene has this picture that, I mean, it was Gator, I mean, this was a serious one. And he’s trying to put it in front of the computer screen to where there’s no glare on it. I said, what are you doing? He said, well, I’m trying to get the glare off this picture so we can take a picture for the book. I said, take it out of the frame, get the glass off of it.

Ramsey Russell: That’ll do it.

Joe Briscoe: And they kind of cut his hand –

Ramsey Russell: That’ll do it.

Joe Briscoe: That did it. Just set it up there and Stutz says, that’s perfect.

Ramsey Russell: Good stuff.

Joe Briscoe: But I will tell you this, hang on.

Ramsey Russell: What are you pulling out, the caramel moonshine?

Joe Briscoe: No, I ain’t got no caramel, but I did just for you, got this in the fridge for when you show up again, somebody, I said, no, you can’t drink that, that’s Ramsey’s.

Ramsey Russell: We drink all that, I’ll probably be sleeping in that recliner you sitting in. That’s probably where I’ll spend the night.

Joe Briscoe: There’s plenty of places you can put your feet up.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah. Joe, you all be good. I appreciate you coming on, I look forward to seeing again. I may make a pass down through there this fall.

Joe Briscoe: As always. Shooting the bull with you is always fun.

Ramsey Russell: You don’t have a web page, but you do have social media. How can folks get in touch with you?

Joe Briscoe: You can find me @jbcustomcall on Instagram.

Ramsey Russell: You turning out those teal calls yet?

Joe Briscoe: Oh, yeah. I’ll start on those, usually Memorial Day, and I’ll have 100 done before the end of August.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah. Tracy, you mentioned Tracy earlier, he taught you snow goose hunting, he’s the one that introduced me to you. Because he blows that call, and now I blow that call, now a lot of people I hunt with blow that little teal call you got. You’re going to really be famous when that baloney snatcher call comes out. And folks, you all connect with my buddy Briscoe, and be dang sure to ask him and encourage him to go ahead and finish his shoveler call.

Joe Briscoe: I am besieged by one idiot from Mississippi.

Ramsey Russell: I don’t believe it. So did you tell us how we can connect with you on social media? Jbcustomcalls, that’s the name of your Instagram page?

Joe Briscoe: Right. You can email me @jbcustomcalls@yahoo.com. Don’t use the other, I can’t believe you – I hadn’t used that in almost 10 years.

Ramsey Russell: You what? You’re breaking up.

Joe Briscoe: I have more fun on Instagram. I said, I have more fun on Instagram.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah.

Joe Briscoe: I get a lot of people there. When they call and ask me how much, they want to know about this or that. I use the Instagram phone and pick up the phone and call them back.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah, that’s what people do that these days.

Joe Briscoe: It’s crazy, man. I don’t mind doing it. There’s a guy wants to bring his daughter over here, I said any time, bring her in here.

Ramsey Russell: I bet you did say that. So that’s what the fireball’s for.

Joe Briscoe: No fireball, I seriously bought for you, so you couldn’t when you came. And one no bourbon and there’s no moonshine. No, I quit the moonshining, that was just –

Ramsey Russell: You all be good, Joe. Thank you very much. And folks, thank you all for listening this episode of MOJO’s Duck Season Somewhere podcast with Besieged by Idiots, though he is one of my very best friends, Mr. Joe Briscoe. JB Custom Calls on Instagram, check it out. See you next time.

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