Episode #83: Ducks Down Under

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Dan Hruska: Not too much. I just saw some videos that gunner kennels has on YouTube. I’m not sure. I assume it’s on our website too. But man, that’s just a great product, especially if you’re traveling with a companion in the back of your truck and have the unfortunate accident of a rollover or something of that sort and those things really are bomb proof. So, that was pretty neat to see compared to a few other in the industry, but just wanted to mention that. And this week is a little different. We’re talking to some people literally on the other side of the world. And it’s really cool just to see how, they’re hunters just like us. They deal with a lot more anti-hunter type activity where people actually come out to the swamps and cause some issues. But it was really neat to talk to them and get their perspective on things and then catch up with a few of our American buddies and see what they had going on down there.

Josh Palm: Yeah, it was a cool opportunity for sure. And this is one that’s kind of a new deal for us here. The time difference was like 16 hours or something crazy like that. So, we were able to catch them during kind of like a mid-day lunch on last Sunday evening, so we’re recording this on Tuesday the 15^th, so this was this past weekend that we were able to get with them. And unfortunately for me the scheduling conflicts were just kind of tough and I actually had to work on getting the current week’s episode out, which is the one that we did with Big Kansas Outdoors. And so I was actually working on editing that and getting that prepared to go out on Monday. So, you actually were able to connect with them and record the call on your end and all that kind of stuff. So, it’s the first time we really sort of had to divide and conquer, but it was also an opportunity that we didn’t want to miss. We wanted to make sure that we’re able to connect with those guys down there because it’s just not every day that you have that opportunity. So, the interview is basically you and talking to the guys down there and sort of going through. You get an interesting perspective because there’s a lot of different things kind of represented if that makes sense in the group that they’re in. You’ve got Ramsey and you’ve got Ryan. Guys that have traveled all over the world to hunt, but they had the guides there, they’ve got guys documenting the hunt, all that kind of stuff. So, you get a little taste of everything sort of with this group.

Dan Hruska: And I do apologize. It was my first time running equipment on our end. So, if the audio quality is not up to snuff, I apologize. And also they were outside on speakerphone passing a phone around, so I’m not sure exactly how in the middle of the bush it’s going to come through. But nonetheless, it was great. And I got to talk to Jake a little bit down there who I look up to in the photography and video world, he’s one of a kind. And those Aussies down there, they get after it. And just the way that they were talking about conservation and everything they’re doing down there, it’s just really cool. And I do feel bad that you weren’t on it because we talked about spiders and a lot of different spiders.

Josh Palm: Yeah, I’m really bummed out that I missed that conversation. I’ll have to do some research on my own to never go to Australia and stay away from them, there are spiders as much as possible.

Dan Hruska: There you go.

Josh Palm: So, why don’t we go ahead and get into that and put the interview on with these guys and we’ll circle back once that’s done. So without further ado here it is Dan on the gear for the first time flying solo with the boys down in Australia.

Dan Hruska: All right. Tonight we are getting over a little bit of duck depression and talking to a few guys that we’ve mentioned before or had on the show on the podcast before. We have some gents that are hunting in Australia and making everyone jealous that is watching their Instagram updates and Facebook. So Ramsey, we talked to you a couple of weeks ago and it’s good to have you on again. How are you doing?

Ramsey Russell: Yes, Dan it’s good to be here. We say duck season somewhere, we mean everywhere. Right now, here we are in the first half of May, duck season’s been closed. I keep seeing on social media, everybody talking about duck season in 3 or 4 month, heck it’s duck season somewhere in Australia. You should have seen some of the string of duck Ryan Bassham and I put together the last couple of days. And real quick, because there’s a lot to get into. Everybody’s heard me talk before. We’ve got a real nice group of guys sitting here with us and I’m just going to tell you who all joining me on this thing right here. You heard me say the first time, one thing I really love about what I do, is the people part of it and this is no exception. And getting to show people different parts of the world. For everybody listening, go to getducks.com on Facebook, Ramsey Russell of getducks social media on Instagram. Igetducks is Ryan bassham Instagram account, he’s also got a personal account. Jake Latendresse, I probably said his name wrong is also posting himself up on social media. We’re doing timelines and pictures. But real quickly, I’m joined today by Ryan Bassham, who is Sitka marketing and development. He also runs a company called Trophy Exhibitions, which focused on big games. He’s actually going to leave us in duck hunting and go shoot some kind of deer down here. Jake Latendresse, pro photography tone much more. You can just practically see his work everywhere. He’s coming down here to video document a buddy he and I are working on. Our host is Glenn Falla. He runs Falla’s Waterfowl Outfitters. He’s my partner down here. He’s your host and boots on the ground for shoot a few ducks he’s up here. He was formally a Winchester where he was a battle station and he developed the best ammo, I’ve ever shot. The best steel shot at the two and three quarter inch round that does about 1500ft per second, can’t fire that in the state. Come on Winchester, get it for us. And we’ve also got a guy named Paul Sharp. He runs a Facebook group called cooking game. He’s the best cook in Australia. We’ve been eating fish for breakfast and duck’s cooked butterfly cooked in many different ways, really good guy. He’s that guy that, in every hunting camp you’re lucky to have. Because he can cook and he doesn’t mind cooking. He’s good at cooking and keep you full and happy. He’s also because of where we’re hunting here in southern Australia, he’s kind of our expert. You all be sure to check out his Facebook page because I promise none of us know how to cook duck like this guy. The other guy we’re joined by today is Trent Leen. He’s the president of the Geelong Field and Game Association. He is also pioneering duck banding down this part of the world. They’ve got a little research lab in the wetlands and they’re just hard to band a lot of ducks on. And I really kind of think that Trent is our special equipment expert on the A-team. You’ll got to see the trailer that Trent Leen has got. Speaking of equipment, we’ve got the only two excel boats in the country that we hit all these lakes with. But he’s part of our A-team. And finally we’ve got Darren Linton who is the editor of Field & Game Australia. Very talented writer, photographer. I think he was there when the Great wall of Russia’s fell or something. He’s been reporting down fences forever. When people think of Australia, they always think of ACDC or 11 john  Crocodile Dundee, Steve Irwin. But I’m telling you it’s really amazing duck hunting. A great duck hunting tradition, the calls, the decoys, lots of birds, lots of wetlands, not much hunt. These guys talk about hunting pressure. There’s no hunting pressure compared to everything we see back home trust me. It’s so much like home, but it’s so different. Its kangaroo’s bounding through the woodlands and pink here ducks and they eat something called vegemite on their toast saves money. Don’t, go for that make sure when you come down here.

Dan Hruska: I saw you guys feeding it to Jake over there.

Ramsey Russell: Oh yeah, we got Jake. Jake didn’t know any better. We pick them right into that Dan, we all knew. But they got Ryan at first I just can’t get on video. And the duck season down here is the normal duck season where we’re shooting 10 to 12 ducks per man per day, it’s February through the end of June. Begins to October through December. They’ve got basically rice field depredation hunt north up here and it’s zero bag limit type hunting. And the last show I was on with, you all, we started talking about anti-hunters and some of the real big issues and guys, I’m telling you, we don’t deal with it. We’re sitting here at ground zero. They didn’t know until two weeks before their season really opened if they were going to have a season because of the vocal minority known as anti-hunters. I posted on social media today, I’ve made a bunch of friends down here with them. They’ve got my picture posted up on some of the big groups. But anyway, I just wanted to introduce you to everybody and Dan you all can – there’s a lot of questions you can ask or I can just start handing the phone off because these are some guys you want to hear from, they can really describe this wonderful country to you.

Dan Hruska: Yeah, I think I’ll talk to anyone. I was going to say you’re coming right out of Russia, right? Or did you come home to the state’s first and then fly out there.

Ramsey Russell: I was home for 58 hours and I have to see mama sleeps in my bed a couple of nights before coming over here. And Australia, that’s one thing. Australia’s a long flight. There’s no shortcuts flying all the way across the Pacific Ocean from Los Angeles to get here. Unfortunately the flight and kind of empty and I got to stretch across the benches a little bit. But what’s here is funny as everybody goes to bed, Ryan and I go to bed about 7 o’clock the first night we were not up by the clock and wake up at 2 or 3, our roommates don’t wake up to about 6 or 7. Which bring up interesting question these last – the pictures you’ve been seen online, everybody’s asking is that ice? And it’s not. Just massive sand weapon very close to the Indian Ocean. And the ducks are flying and feeding on these different sails and stuff. And so we haven’t even been leaving the house to go hunting until 9 AM in daylight of ours.

Dan Hruska: So, is that fresh water that you’re hunting there?

Ramsey Russell: Fresh water and most of them coming in because of the fresh water. And I would estimate haven’t counted ducks before, we were looking at 60 or 70,000 total waterfowl on that wet one. And we were just sampling a part of it, just getting into them. And the first day was amazing. We got into a lot of Australian shell ducks, they call them honkers. And these locals can tell you the names, they’ve got the ducks. There’s nothing like what we call back home and I can tell you that. Their wood duck is totally different than ours. So, in addition to that you don’t want to duck. It’s an immersive experience. We flew into Melbourne, we drove some hours to get down to south Australia, right up against the beach and samples one wetland this morning we got up and drove a few hours now, we’re looking at this massive cattail marsh probably we’re picking to go out and shoot a bunch of black ducks on.

Dan Hruska: That’s awesome.

Ramsey Russell: Hey, I’m going to give the phone to Glenn Falla and let him tell you a little bit about this country and getting started. You all listen carefully, because he talks funny, okay?

Dan Hruska: All Right.

Glenn Falla: Thanks for that, it’s so funny. How are you, Dan?

Dan Hruska: Hey Glenn, nice to have you.

Glenn Falla: Yeah, very good.

Dan Hruska: Yeah. So, I guess give us a little breakdown, where you guys are heading out here shortly and kind of what you expect to get into.

Glenn Falla: Yeah, sure. So, as Ramsey explain we’re on the edge of a very large lake in fact two of them that are joined by a narrow channel system through the center, which is very heavy with cattail and it’s a lot like our hunting home in Victoria. We’ll be invoked this time. The boys have been doing a lot of miles in the last couple of days lugging a lot of gears, we’re going there for a day or two. And use a couple of excel boats push into that cat and hopefully with the wind comes up, we’ll really get bombarded by our premium game bird, the black duck here in Australia and also quite a lot of great teal and whoever knows what else might turn up in the spread. So I’m looking forward to getting out there, getting the dogs doing some retreat from the boat.

Dan Hruska: Awesome. And I was looking at a lot of the pictures that we see, that’s the only thing that I can reference off of. But it looks like a lot of shallow water. It looks windy, it almost looks like a I don’t know what kind of rock but it seems so smooth and broken down and just really wide open. So, I’m kind of wondering does that does that water system get deep and kind of what they are looking at? Are they feeding their, these loafing type areas? What’s your game plan to go find these birds? Are you getting there like I said their food or what are you hitting there?

Glenn Falla: Yeah. So, our game plan switches up from today that you’re quite right on those shallow swamp. And the big lake and they’re feeding on aquatic snail and the thing that we used to set up and make sure that the birds want to be where we are is the fresh water. So the water that comes up from underneath the ground and they’ll go out and feed in the paddock 4ft on that aquatic snail all day and of course they’re taking in a lot of salt water. So, they’re looking for a fresh water drink and that’s where we set up. But I don’t think it’s any more than maybe 2ft deep, 3ft deep and we were going today is a whole different ballgame. Cattail marshes that we’re in really on the edge that he’s open lakes that are quite a bit deeper, maybe 6 or 8ft deep and big waves. You get a lot of wind, you got to be pretty careful with your buddy, but we take ourselves away and the cattail where they’re from cover and if you’ve got a windy day, they’re looking for somewhere quiet to rest because those flights can get pretty big, those white caps keep them off the open lake and they’re looking for someone to sit back and just relax and we’ll be there waiting for them.

Dan Hruska: That’s awesome. What a game plan too. You get out of the wind and right where they want to be. So, when I think of Australia. I’ve never been there but just from the movies like Ramsey was talking about and people – everyone always says, there’s always something around the next corner that wants to kill you in Australia. And that’s one of my questions watching all this, like are there snakes around there? Like crocodiles? Like what are you getting into and things that you need to look out for?

Glenn Falla: Yeah, the boys around the circle here are smiling and laughing because there’s been a bit of discussion about that this week and until this day too. We let the boys know that they probably should be a little bit careful where they put their hands and feet. Those salty lakes are a really good home for what we refer to as our spider. There’s been a lot of discussion about how many venomous snakes we have and we’ve really only had the cold weather coming in the last week. So, there’s still a few snakes around. They’re not as active as they were in the warmer months, but they’re still around and you still got to watching you’re putting your gear down and anywhere in the long grass you want to have a good look before you sit down. That’s for sure.

Dan Hruska: So, the snake is the main issue that you guys find?

Glenn Falla: Yeah. Look, we’ve talked about the spider because these boys are a little concerned. Look, we have some nasty spider over here, but not often down in the wetland. The tiger snake does tend to hang around the wetland. They love that sort of area. They eat the frogs and all sorts of things off the wetland and it’s not uncommon here in Australia to be sitting on the boat in the wetlands such as this on a warm day and have a snake actually want to hop in the boat with you.

Dan Hruska: Oh, that’s great. So, the main host of this podcast, Josh, he wasn’t able to come on today, but he is like deathly afraid of spiders. So, I mean even when we get in layout blinds here, like he’s always double triple checking and pretty much would rather burn something than sit in a blind that might have a spider in it. So those spiders that you’re talking about. Give me a little description of those, maybe the size of them and just give Josh a good mental picture of what Australia holds.

Glenn Falla: Yeah. So, I guess one of the ones that would be mainly concerned about down this part of the something is what we call our red back. Pretty easy to find. Google Redback spider. They’re fairly small spider. They have a very bright red stripe on the back on their abdomen and it’s one of the species of Australian boys used for using hunter year all year round. You sell the life if you lose it laying around and you could end up with the red back in there. You always check your boots and you go out to the shed, you got a pair of waders that you haven’t worn for a month or so. You weren’t just check inside and you’re probably getting a bit of a break. But we’re trying to use our gear regularly so they don’t get a chance to get in there and make a nest.

Dan Hruska: Oh man, that’s enough to creep him out. So, you guys are driving like 3 hours today somewhere, where you’re trying to work this out. And I don’t want to freak out the guys there if they are worried about spiders or anything. But what is your protocol? What’s your safety protocol? If something like that happens, what kind of resources do you have?

Glenn Falla: Well, we got a pretty good bunch of guys together and not only do we have best cook in Australia, the best cook in Australia happens to be a paramedic as well. So, I might let him answer that question when we hand the phone over to him. I’m not real sure whether he’s got a plan or whether, he did. So, he might not do too much. But we’re certainly sit back and take a laugh and maybe pack in beer and say goodbye. I’m not sure that was the answer, you’re looking for, but it’s probably the one you’re going to get from Australian.

Dan Hruska: Oh no, that’s fine. I thought you might have been putting him on the phone, but that works.

Glenn Falla: I can do that. I can do that because now it’s going to go real quick. I’ll pass on the Paul Sharp is not only our cook could ever say a paramedic and the local expert here in south Australia, so it’s really put us on the marsh this week and I’m sure he’s going to continue to do so. We’re heading for some red gum swamp after we’re sitting here after a couple of days. That’s going to be really exciting to. We’re slowly working our way back from Adelaide back down to Victoria’s down to Melbourne when the boys fly out at the end of the week. So we’ll stay here a couple of days and move on and I’ll hand you on the phone.

Dan Hruska: Awesome, well I appreciate it.

Paul Sharp: Hey, How are you?

Dan Hruska: Paul, I’m doing well. So, I guess we can talk a little food and safety if you don’t mind. So you’re the cook, what have you been serving up to these guys over there?

Paul Sharp: I’ve been meaning held on because the modem go out and shoot the dinner and then push them out in the ocean and maybe types of breakfast.

Dan Hruska: So think, what you just said, how far away from the ocean are you guys?

Paul Sharp: Well, the lake sort of a certain times of the year that does look up in there and some of it, like literally within 5 km of it.

Dan Hruska: Nice. And what I was saying – and I’m not very familiar with Australia or the towns and what not. So I don’t know, if you guys have medevac kind of things, if you do get bit by spiders or is that something that you have, something that you carry with you or kind of your training over there for more venomous spiders and snakes that we have on this side?

Paul Sharp: We have a very fine ambulance service over here and they actually have an excellent aero ambulance service, but we’re absolutely not planning on doing that. But if that actually comes up in this quarter on the day.

Dan Hruska: Nice. So you’re ready to go. Awesome. So, is there a big difference between the kind of ducks that you like to cook for clients or yourself or kind of what’s your go to there?

Paul Sharp: To be honest. I’m pretty much just your every kind of guy. but I don’t cook for the guests or anything. This is our friend Glenn sort of, this is what’s happening. So I tagged along and it’s pretty much there that we would do together as friends and that’s exactly how it is. So there is some difference in like, as you would know, shell ducks are a big dark and a lot of people sort of shy off trying to eat because they claim it was tough but there’s ways you think anything on them and whatever you’d like to do. But we were cooking a lot of the teals boys were shooting and just freezing the amount of duck meat below them. But we were cooking at like stir fry or putting on the bags and putting over charcoal. I’ll let the boys so that they can do their own testimony for what they thought of it. But it is absolutely delicious. I assure you it was the fact that you don’t have to put too much on it the first night we really just put a bit of salt and pepper alarm and let the duck fat do the thing over the coals and just melting. Now, what you’ll find on the web page of mine that sort of links in with Ramsey and Josh and Ryan and all the rest of them. But honestly it’s absolutely delicious. We’ve eaten nothing but what they caught and what their shot, the wholes on here. I think that would be prepared for the rest of the week.

Dan Hruska: That’s awesome. What a self-sustaining trip. You don’t get any better than that. Field to plate, I heard that mentioned a couple of times so that’s really cool.

Paul Sharp: Look, I think hunting is well practiced all about things, but the culture is just self-sustain. It’s about having a good time, it’s about the hunting about filling the freezer with the way that you’re supposed to do it ethically and enjoying a wholesome at the end of the day, CBS would make maybe put a spider in Josh’s swag. Who knows? By the way, thanks for the information, that’s very good.

Dan Hruska: Oh yeah. I know, Josh is not a fan. Like I said, he’d rather burn all his equipment than take a chance of seeing a tiny little spider in there. So, just one thing that he’s not a fan of that’s for sure. I don’t know how he would roll if he ended up in Australia. I think he’d probably tough through it.

Paul Sharp: All right, look, I’ll put Mr. Ramsey and he can share it with the boys.

Dan Hruska: All right.

Ramsey Russell: All right. But I’ll add all this guy is really cooking some good ducks. One thing he pointed out when we first got here is, we whole pick those birds and he was breasting them, but he was breasting duck, actually we had fun. So, he would gradually had this pure piece of breast meat with fat attached and then the skin would attack them and we just kind of deboned the whole leg joint, but it all had the fat on it. So, the kebabs and stir fry in different ways he’s cooked ducks. And the flavor in the fat. And I was real pleased to see that, that’s the mark of a true chef right there man. I’m telling, you don’t press your duck without the fat on it. It’s great. But look, I want to hand the phone over to Ryan Bassham because he’s done such a great job, really document their stuff on social media and he can really articulate a little bit more of Australia than I can say. I’ve been here and what I’ve seen before, he really kind of seeing for the first time and we’ve had a really good time over here hunting, but I’m going to hand the phone over to Ryan Bassham from Sitka.

Ryan Bassham: Hey, buddy how’s it going?

Dan Hruska: Ryan, good to have you on. I know we’ve been trying to get you on. So, you might as well go to the other end of the world and make it happen. So, I did have one question just from your social media stuff right off the bat, talk about the test that you had to get to get your license and your thoughts on making that happen where in the United States.

Ryan Bassham: Yeah, that’s a fantastic question. It’s a requirement by law that anybody who wants to stay and duck hunting come and I did that. And so it does not only the game species that are legally able to go out and hunt, but also the non-game species. And I think it’s a good thing. I mean, really it’s a pretty short test but you definitely, especially with us not being from here, we had to do a little bit of studying to make sure we can very accurately identify the species on the fly. And so it’s not like just looking at a picture of a bird and say, oh yeah, this is a gray teal or chestnut teal or what have you. And in fact it’s you’re watching video of birds flying around in the marsh and you have to be able to identify it not only identify the species, but then say, yeah, this is a game species or non-game species. In order to pass that test, you have to have completed 85% of that test accurately. And so it’s a really good thing I think, especially with the popularity of waterfowl hunting than US and a lot of new people coming into to what we do, not think it’s fantastic that they do, but this would be something I think it’d be really good for everyone and pushing people to understand and be able to identify that the game that they’re out there harvesting because quite frankly are bag limits from fly way to fly away and state to state and it’s quite a bit more intricate because there’s so many more species that we can hunt there in the US here you can really only part of 7 different issues and there it’s a little bit more difficult. So it’s definitely something that would be advantageous for enforcement.

Dan Hruska: Yeah. And my follow up question to that, you have to be able to identify what you can shoot what you can’t shoot, I think Ramsay said 10-12 ducks. Is your daily limit? Is that about right?

Ryan Bassham: Yes. South Australia the bag limit for a man is 12 over in Victoria it’s 10. And so there’s some variance is there but it’s quite generous.

Dan Hruska: Okay, so are there any, like our mallard is four or whatever it may be, is it split up per you’re black ducks or chestnut teals, gray teals or do they have limits within the overall bag limit?

Ryan Bassham: 12 ducks. Yeah. So there’s no differences in species that you shoot. And it’s 12 mountain ducks, it’s a mountain duck. 12 gray ducks, 12 great duck can be any combination there, there’s not anything that restriction can only shoot a certain amount of one particular species within the next 12 word bag limit.

Dan Hruska: So, it makes more sense for us to actually do something like that here being that you do have your limits inside the daily bag limit. But yeah, it’s interesting. So, tell me a little bit about, your experience were you targeting a specific duck on your trip out there and can you relate Australia to any place around the United States that just kind of reminds you of the same area?

Ryan Bassham: Great question. I told some of the boys here. I grew up watching crocodile Dundee as a kid because all my grandma had to watch for me shattered sound of music. I’ll say now it’s more of a crocodile Dundee man. But I came in wide eye, just like any time I go to a new country, famous Ramsey and Jake, I’m sure, you don’t really know what to expect. It’s all preconceived notions and I can say that everything are exceeded my expectation and most wonderful, it’s impossible. It’s a beautiful country, very hospitable, everybody’s great, food’s great, it’s been amazing. I haven’t even left yet, I’m already planning my next trip back. So that tells you that it’s good. But as far as the area that we hunted so far, it reminded me a lot of hunting in the Great Salt Lake over in Utah. Very simple in regards to not only the terrain, but it’s the way the birds work. It’s just a totally different type of hunting, it’s very unique. When you’ve only got these little fresh water pockets of water, you catch the birds trading back and forth trying to find that fresh water and get a drink throughout the day. And it’s pretty unique within walking out hunting and being able to pattern these birds and get on the way you want to.

Dan Hruska: Yeah, that was pretty cool. I’m watching your videos and Ramsey’s videos and Jake’s videos and trying to figure out how you guys are playing on these hunts and I’m like, man, they all just look like they’re bunched up over there and it just looks like they’re on slate. Like it doesn’t look like they’re eating anything, what’s going on, so to hear that they’re after the fresh water is pretty interesting there and I don’t know, it’s so cool. What else are you finding over there? Are you one of the ones that don’t like spiders?

Ryan Bassham: I’m not, I’m thinking a lot of finished spiders or snakes. I don’t really know who he is if they’re not right in their mind in my opinion, but oh man. I’m focusing more on the ducks, you have a kind of, I don’t really know what my favorite going to be. We haven’t shot anything yet, but they’re a really cool little bird and it’s interesting here within the Australian water fowler culture they have what they consider their “trash ducks” and I’ve always said there is no such thing as trash duck. I appreciate all water fowl and what each species is, but it is funny that even this far away, they there’s a similar nuances that we have hunters back home that resonates here too. But that pacific black duck is something else. Beautiful bird that chestnut teal as well or just stunning. I mean the photos really don’t do them justice, but there’s really not much to love here with the variety of species and really what the birds are. It’s pretty awesome.

Dan Hruska: So today I’m at home and like redoing a bathroom sitting there – also kudos to you for your mother’s day post for your wife. Very good keeping up on that. So I saw that I was like, all right, he’s doing it right. He covered himself there.

Ryan Bassham: Keeping home safe from the storm, you know what I mean?

Dan Hruska: Yeah, so I was doing some base trim ended up – for some reason I had a pair of sperry boat shoes on that had like no tread And I end up, I beefed it down about 7 stairs and the first thing I thought of when I got up, I was like, man, those boys are over there shooting ducks and I’m going to be talking tonight and I just fell downstairs doing my hunting do list for this coming season. So I was not too happy, halfway through the day, but this is a treat getting to talk to you guys. And especially when you about half an hour ago to kill more ducks.

Ryan Bassham: Well man, I appreciate you, what if someone talked with. What’s really cool is the fact that we have Jake Latendresse as well. And I mean in his own right, he’s been somebody I looked up to and admired as a creative for a long time. He’s very well-traveled, traveled the world and everything. I mean you name it. From Hungai Empire dolly Mongolia to Sun chi and British Columbia and water fowl over the world. This guy’s pretty much seen and done it all. Really unique perspective on as a waterfowl community and within the hunting industry. What he gets to do and see and experience. He’s a traveling cameraman and he’s pretty incredible at what he does, but I think it would be advantageous to chat with him a little bit and ask him some questions. Ask him what he does and enjoy talking to him.

Dan Hruska: Awesome. Hey, thanks for the time and good luck the rest of your trip. And what do you – I guess, I still got, what are you going for once you leave there? You’re doing a big game hunt.

Ryan Bassham: Yeah, I’m going for after Sambar Deer. I’m headed back over the state of Victoria and I go up into the high country and we’ll see if we can get on a stag and give the spot and stock and we can get lucky.

Dan Hruska: Awesome. Well, good luck man. And I’ll be watching all your updates on that too. So good luck. Stay safe. And I appreciate the time.

Jake Latendresse: Hey, bud. How’s it going? This Jake Latendresse.

Dan Hruska: Jake, how are you? So for anyone that doesn’t know Jake, you need to know Jake, you need to follow his outdoor stuff. He has now – I guess it’s kind of a podcast is kind of – it’s not on iTunes, but you guys are doing a video, kind of video series, outdoor cameraman experience. If you want to get into taking pictures, they’re taking video or anything Jake and Jess D Lorenzo to the top of the game right now. You need to follow this guy. So Jake, thanks for coming on. I know, you’re not shy to the camera or the microphone anymore. So, I appreciate the time and I guess I’ll start out asking you, since you get to document everything who misses more Ryan or Ramsey?

Jake Latendresse: I haven’t been here long enough to assess that. Absolutely. But give me some ideas about social media when I get back.

Dan Hruska: That’s funny. I figured, if you’re behind the camera, you’re looking for some kill shots and not seen it.

Jake Latendresse: You’re very perceptive because they’re seeing the things that we pick out and with my headset on and a microphone in this case. I always get to listen in on some pretty interesting conversations too. So it’s always entertaining.

Dan Hruska: One of my favorite videos yours is that bear hunt that just sends shivers up my spine every time I watch it. But tell me a little bit, have you been to Australia before? I guess start out with that. Have you been there before and does this remind you of Salt Lake as well? I’m sure that you’ve been through Utah a time or two?

Jake Latendresse: Yeah. I’ve hunted the Great Salt Lake and we talked about that yesterday and it’s very, very similar to the location we were at yesterday was very similar to the Great Lake. Pumping and at the water’s shallow, even the wind, push the water out of the store line when we had a wind coming over our shoulder and it was just very similar, but some of the photos and videos that I’ve seen looking forward to the next locations we’re going to go to remind me a lot of – the fact that people here remind me a lot of South Louisiana, the marsh down there, the open marsh, they hide in the reeds cattails and even the cuisine that the seriousness in which they take there were waterfowl to the cooking table. And then they got a variation of flooded timber and the red eucalyptus timber which looks extremely interesting. So, I came here looking for differences and how it’s going to pull these stories out of the hunt and to my surprise when I’m really looking for similarities, I mean these people are hardcore water fowler’s, they take it very seriously, they take their species and conservation, the management all that very, very seriously. So, I think some of the stories they’re going to come out of this, you’re going to be more similarity to American hunting than differences.

Dan Hruska: Nice. And one thing I was thinking too, when you’re heading over there. How do you travel? Do you ever have any trouble taking all of your equipment with you and electronics and whatnot? And I know,  I’m just thinking, oh here’s a very expensive camera, it’s staying on my side, I’m sure you don’t check that the red or maybe you do, maybe you’re confident enough to do that. But how do you go about that and have you ever had any troubles with all the travels that you do?

Jake Latendresse: Yeah, there’s always a logistical issues. The number one thing is probably weight because all the batteries and cameras and lenses they all weigh a lot. So, I typically travel if I’m on a solo assignment, I typically travel with one pelican case standing and a backpack and I just stuffed everything in there it’s tight and neat safe as I can. And I always carry that on and then I leave the tripods and I actually carry a drone with me. He’s an international. And I have one time here now and I put that into my checked bag hoping that it just gets here and that if it doesn’t then I just have to do without. I’ve had equipment stolen and baggage handling before. So I have a really good insurance policy on all of my equipment but that was one time that was about 12 years ago and hasn’t happened again and knock on wood everything out here safely. So, I just keep doing what I do and go from one spot to the next

Dan Hruska: That’s awesome. So, I guess you pretty much covered what I had to ask just what you thought it was close to and you’re talking southern Louisiana and now are they letting you get in front of the camera at all? Do you get to pull the trigger?

Jake Latendresse: We’re actually here for a fairly short film and to be honest with you it doesn’t really matter to me, if I pull the trigger or not because experience is the same for me in the value of my present is the fact that I get to capture everything forever. And so I take that very seriously. I don’t even really mind not getting to pull the trigger as long as I’m filming and taking photos and I’m extremely happy with my assignment, my purpose here. So, it’s all good man.

Dan Hruska: Yeah and it’s funny because a lot of people – they just don’t understand the feeling you get when you snap that picture, get that video clip that really even if you are on an assignment like it means something you when you really do something special in your own eyes and you know that you meant to do it and it just works out. So some people how can you not even want to pick up a gun anymore. You know that kind of comment. It’s like, it gets a little deeper than that and I find myself, my camera’s getting a lot closer every hunt I go on it seems like so. It’s really cool and I appreciate everything you do and put up on social media and especially the outdoor camera man, what you got going on and really teaching people. I mean that’s it’s really special to be out and helping like that. So

Jake Latendresse: Well thank you very much. I really appreciate you having me and everyone else on here. I’m going to transition back to Ramsey and let him introduce the last two guest. So, here’s Ramsey.

Dan Hruska: All right. Thank you.

Ramsey Russell: We ain’t got much longer to this Jake was talking about 20 black ducks slipped down the bank. We all heard of quack there goes pair right there. We’re seeing black ducks starting to fly around and for years you love all these different species but when I came here last year I wanted to get my hands on the mountain ducks, the pink eared duck, the different species at the end of the day, it was that darn pacific black duck because they quack like matters, they act like mallards. This red gum swamp we’re talking about just think Arkansas, green timber on steroids. Giant massive ancient trees with ducks coming in through the trees today. They’re going to be around the corner, I see the wind picking up, they’re going to be coming off the big water and coming into the cat tail holds, it will be quacking to them and then chattering to them real lightly and get them right into the mojo decoys or not. I don’t have deeper water. But anyway we’ve got a couple more guys I think, could shed some light on just kind of paint the picture of hunting in Australia. I’m going to hand the phone over Trent Leen who work and grew up in Australia. One thing I’ll tell you just to get some backup on this. Glenn Falla and Trent Leen and I we all met on Arkansas duck hunt, that’s how we all got to know each other and start this whole thing started with us in a duck blind in Arkansas. It wasn’t just one the duck hunt. It was a great duck hunt, I think we ended up picking our limit but just a typical dot com where you’ve got a lot of time in between vollies and visit and talk and we just realized a lot of similarities and you just want to duck hunt more together. Remember last time I was talking about you can put people from all over the world and all walks of life into the duck blind money and politics and racial religion doesn’t matter if it’s all just raw duck hunter. That’s kind of how it how it felt. And  incidentally we were in Arkansas were walking this little old bitty cafe with maybe 8 seats and a table and they were looking at the menu, I can see their head swimming and they can barely read English and I said no, don’t worry, I’ll order for you. So, I ordered blue plate special chicken fried steak, turnip greens, fried okra and they lick their paws and it didn’t matter if I didn’t know anybody. They were sitting there licking the plate clean. I never forget Glenn going, what is this? I go it’s a chicken fried steak goes, but it’s not chicken, I said, well if it’s not chicken then which part of chicken what part of it. And chicken then I go, it’s chicken fried chicken fried steak and they still don’t have their mind and wrapped around it. Oh, but they love it. I guarantee you they come back and eat it. Anyway, I’m going to hand the phone over to Trent Leen and just describe some of the banding activity and some of the things they’ve got going on?

Trent Leen: Hey, how are you?

Dan Hruska: Trent. Doing well. How are you doing?

Trent Leen: Really well. We just moved to a new location and getting ready to go out for a hunts. But a lot of the work we’ve been working on late, we’ve been working to the Professor Marcel from Deakin University on the avian bird flu. And we’ve been sampling ducks in the byproduct of that as well after you stuff them. We also provided this dead bird samples. So, in the vicinity of the last two years has provided in 500 samples and I think around 200 surfing programs as well. So which I know it doesn’t found a lot of the numbers that you guys stand over there, every bird that we get, we measure, we weigh, we take blood. Well, Professor Marcel does take blood and we banded it. So, it does take quite a while to get through all that. We also had a really interesting finding come out of our desert samples that we provided last year. And we actually had the first samples for the SARS virus ever found in Australia. So, it was something that and it’s good to be a part of, I guess.

Dan Hruska: Yeah. So that’s interesting. How long have you been taking samples of the dead birds?

Trent Leen: This is the second year.

Dan Hruska: So, that’s interesting. And we have a podcast coming out either later tonight, usually Monday mornings or when they release and we have a guide on there from Kansas and he said, the one thing I’m really worried about is something like avian flu coming and just taken out just thousands of birds and then I’m out of a job. So it’s interesting that, that’s coming out tomorrow and you guys are doing a lot of samples like that, do you see – you said you had 200 banded birds this past year or so far this year?

Trent Leen: In the last 2 years, yeah.

Dan Hruska: The total last two years and I assume that you’re on the end of getting reports of banded birds too? As far as if someone shoots a banded bird or something, do you get those call ins or the data.

Trent Leen: We’ve had few birds that have been shot has been approximately 1km away from the banding site. Well, we don’t have to fly away like you guys have with, that’s the way they come down south. So more nomadic. We are the driest continent on earth. So, they really do for us, if we have big floods up in northern Queensland, our birds would get up and go, we don’t know how or why they know that they just go. So, and then when it rains back down south again, they just they just turn up so that we really like to know. We may never know that been really good to be part of their studies for the virus like you said it’s really interesting stuff and then they take those viruses the whole idea behind it is to basically taking that virus trying to mutate that virus and to develop a vaccine before it actually does naturally. So it was an event where there was a breakout hope we already develop a vaccine for it. So, really exciting stuff we part of. We’ve grown this, we’ve got three trapping sites now one of our wetlands. The contrary wetlands benefits wetland environmental forces purchased and Geelong Field & Game in conjunction defendants. They built the Wetland Center on there, that’s approximately 90 acre um wetland and now that’s forever generations that ensure that it’s got that land there for conversation.

Dan Hruska: So, I kind of have two follow up questions here. I guess is there a way that you can search for if any banded birds have been shot in Australia that have came from the United States or Canada. And then two what are your systems for trapping over there? Like is it a net system or kind of how do you guys go about collecting your birds for banding?

Trent Leen: Okay so my knowledge, we haven’t have catching them birds with international bands on them. So, that to return to the scene from our banding programs. And there’s to my knowledge, it’s all registered with commonwealth. So and the details go back to the bander. So in this case it was Professor Marcel but he’s very significant commonwealth on the band contact them and then it comes back to Marcel that sort of gift as we know with one favorite turn. Then the trapping methods that we’ve been using, we’ve just got basically funnel trap. So I’ve got a fear been up. So I see that morning night and on the trapping nights and we’ve got good numbers will just trapped up. We’ve all had to do animal ethics to assist. So we can actually assist our self therefore we can actually help you with the family of the birds. This is a no have taken a lot of people to get their head around the fact that hunters could be involved with something like this. We’re always been bundled down here with the anti’s just like, Ramsey mentioned earlier but just generally, we see ourselves as hunter we’re the first conservationists and I think that’s the message, we need to get out the general public and take them, let’s say some of these intellectual types a little bit to understand why would you be getting hunters to assist you with these sort of programs. And we’ve done everything we can to assist Marcel with these programs and going great guns. And after the first year of providing a dead bird samples, which was something obviously very hard to get through their head that we’re actually killing them birds and providing samples, but we’re not hunting them to provide the samples, we’re hunting them for the table. We’re hunting from the wonderful business boys the boys make and we’re just handling them as a byproduct of that trying to help you out this. We did miss naps as well. So we thought another other mud life in shoes and stuff like that. So it’s not just based around us and everything that we as well, which is interesting to get involved as well.

Dan Hruska: Nice. And did Ramsey say that you were one of the ones down in Louisiana where you guys met?

Trent Leen: Yes, we’re in the extent of Arkansas.

Dan Hruska: So, what do you like about the United States verse Australia? And what do you like better about your homeland verse my homeland in hunting regards.

Trent Leen: I got similarities with the things that we found. I mean you guys can watch a lot more of still hunting that you kind of, We traveled five states. So we got to see a lot of different hunt club for the big commercial outfitters. We got to experience a lot of things over there. But basically the culture is also you definitely your hunter and it’s a sign of stand for a miracle Australia that you respect for the quarry and the utilization of the meat on the table. The water is the same. The ducks are the same whether different species, parenting styles like we can go from, we’re over Australia at the moment. All right. Well rather than over here, these pointed in the right direction and then every area’s got a uniquely different hunting styles and you’ve learned something every time you go somewhere and like everything yet. What works somewhere today, might not work somewhere tomorrow. It’s all that, you remember everywhere you go, you pick up somebody from the locals and you keep that in the back of your mind, try on a tough day. So, I guess it’s the waterfowl it’s not just one country, it’s an international thing. I do hope to get around some other countries period. The similarities between Australia and America to a very similar of that I guess, why uniquely different.

Dan Hruska: Right. Well, hey, I appreciate the time. And keep up the good work on the banding and conservation and I’m sure that, it’s difficult to just be starting that and have people understand what you’re trying to do while you’re still out harvesting these birds and trying to get that across that, it’s all combined.

Darren Linton: Hey, Dan. Darren Linton here and on the editor of a magazine. So I thought perhaps the best places to start was a little bit about the organizations. So, Field & Game is a duck hunter organization, the biggest in Australia representing 19,000 duck hunter there by Jake camera notebook and a pen and we’ll travel anywhere and putting yourself in hunting council over the place. Never behind the trigger always behind the shutter release.

Dan Hruska: Nice. And what part of Australia are you from did you say?

Darren Linton: I’m from Chevron, which is in northern Victoria. It was about a 6.5, 7 hour drive for me to get to where we’ve set up today. And it’s not unusual to travel 7, 8 hours to get to camp somewhere. But one of the good things about duck hunt Australia I guess is that can’t anywhere around the world as you’re walking and you’re offered some food and you’re offered a drink and a place to throw down a swag and you always with great people. So, Glenn is with Field & Game Trent’s with Field & Game, Paul’s with Field & Game and so amongst those 19,000 members, it’s just one big community and there’s a real leap off of helping out visiting hunters and showing them around. And Ramsey mentioned, the particularly which were battle all the time. One of the things, particularly the Victorian government is very interested in his expanding part of tourism. So inbound tourism in Australia for people to go and see Cacadu or go kangaroo and see the rock or you know, or the Great Barrier Reef is fantastic. But there’s a chance to grow inbound tourism for hunting and specifically for the duck hunting, but also for the deer and bigger boosts up the territory. So one of the things that does from our point of view, we are a dedicated lot, but we’re very much a minority in the wider Australian population. That economic activity, that economic stimulus helped to support the case for continued hunting in Australia. We’ll agree that there is great opportunity for hunting in Australia. Public land access is really good. And then in Victoria alone Field & Game as an organization. Back in 1958, part of the state government, the premier of the state happened to be a really trained duck hunter and one of the biggest duck hunting regions but they put aside 200 state game reserves which they exist primarily for hunting and 75,000 various sizes, forms and wetlands. So, hunting access is really quite easy across Australia. And you can get access and you’ve got good people to support you, you’ll have a great hunting experience. So all I can say to your predominately north American listeners is come on down and have a great time because you’ll not only have a great experience and great hunting, but you’re actually supporting the hunting culture and the future of hunting in Australia by doing that.

Dan Hruska: Yeah. And extending your season. And I was wondering – I guess when we’re talking about anti-hunting, are there a lot of people that actually get in the field and actually harass people, is there much of that that goes on there?

Darren Linton: Yeah, it tends to be concentrated around the opening week and then only on a limited number of wetlands. And it’s purely a great for publicity and the headline. So, the weather and I was on opening weekend, hunters chose predominantly to stay away. So there might have been 70 or 80 hunters across the two main wetlands. And there were 170 protesters. And Sunday afternoon, you’ve all gone back to there are sitting their last season.

Dan Hruska: So, they make a stink for an hour or two and then they head out.

Darren Linton: Yeah, Ramsey, he’s really keen to me a few of them on the one hand. But he hasn’t had the pleasure but he’s making friends with them online. Look pretty active on social media. And look, there’s never an ancient commercials at the moment in regional Victoria, which are quite geography and make all sorts of spirits claims about hunters and the way hunters go down their business. And we’re trying to have those exports from TV at the moment with lodged a complaint. So I think we’re doing okay in terms of fighting it, but it’s not going away. There are a number of people who are just ethically opposed to hunters and they’re not going to change for few, no matter how much we tell them about what my job is and feel good job is to tell the real story of, I mean, particularly the real story of hundreds of conservationists, which history of that goes back 60 years.

Dan Hruska: Yeah, if those stories never make it out, then there’s absolutely zero chance of changing anyone’s mind or even swaying them into knowing that hunting is okay. So that’s great. And I’m sitting here, I think we’re about almost an hour here and I don’t know if  Ryan went live on Instagram or anything, but I just have a feeling that everyone’s starting to get their waiters on in the background. I don’t know if that’s true or not.

Dan Hruska: All right thank you.

Ramsey Russell: Dan, we appreciate you. I hope that give everybody a real good feel for Australia. Its worlds apart. It’s a long way from home, but it’s such a great place. I’m going to touch on one thing. Remember how limited it seems like increasingly that public land is back home in the country and they’ve got so much quality habitat down here. It’s truly unbelievable. The quality of hunting, the quality of people, how similar it is the state, but they’ve got so much area to hunt down here. It’s unbelievable. We were hunting a red gum swamp last year shot straps of black ducks and gray teal there in the flooded timber and Glenn, he said, I couldn’t believe it. 1000 acre public land flooded timber, we hunted 2 days in a row and never saw another hunter. And he said, well, I don’t see the big deal. He said, what would it be like in Mississippi? I said, would have gotten here at 10 o’clock last night at 6 o’clock in the morning, 15 minutes before shooting time, 50 people would have come in within 100 yards of it. But we had the whole place to ourselves. In fact, I don’t think, I haven’t heard another gunshot since I’ve been here. Ryan and I need to, what we had to play to ourselves. It’s just the quality of hunting down here. But you’re right. It is just wrapped up about the hour and we do have lake full of ducks and go good after.

Dan Hruska: Hey, I had one more question for you and it’s just more around the world. But does anyone around the world still hunting with lead?

Ramsey Russell: Yes. Did you say hunting with lead?

Dan Hruska: Yeah. Lead shot.

Ramsey Russell: Yeah. A lot of people do. Netherlands, America, Canada and Australia hunt was steal shot and everybody else you shoots with lead. And it works as good now as it did back in the 70s I can tell you that it’s probably the dub. So we shoot it out in Australia. We shoot it down, well not in Australia. We shoot it down in Argentina. We shoot it down to Mexico, Azerbaijan and Pakistan. We shoot lead in a lot of different places. And it’s interesting to me. I can remember in waterfowl ecology and management back in grad school, some of the necropsy studies we’re really pretty amazing what a single lead shot pellets would do to some of those ducks that were force fed it during captivity. But at the same time I don’t see the other – there’s so many birds out in the wetlands and apparently aren’t experiencing lead toxicity. Okay. So I don’t know. But we’re shooting steel shot here and come man, steel shot has come so far since the early 90s when they first came out. It’s a very effective a means of ethically killing ducks 40 yards anyway.

Dan Hruska: Yeah. I don’t think anyone can argue that. I just knew that was something that after last time we talked, I was like, that’s a guy to ask about that question.

Ramsey Russell: That’s a good question. But anyway, Dan, I appreciate your time. We’ve all enjoyed it. And we really do got to go get out on the water.

Dan Hruska: Well, hey, good luck. Stay safe. Stay away from the spiders and the snakes. And I’ll keep following you boys. So shoot straight. And Jake make sure you tell us who misses more by the end of the trip.

Ramsey Russell: I will. Thank you Dan.

Dan Hruska: All right. Hey thanks, take care.

Josh Palm: All right Dan, how do you feel first time doing it on your own getting that under your belt? How do you feel about your effort there?

Dan Hruska: I think I held my own, but it’s like you said, it’s an opportunity that we just couldn’t pass up, so it’s kind of throwing me to the wolves a little bit because that’s like A-team down there. So I had to do it. I hope it wasn’t too bad on the listeners end. And just the things that they explain and – every time you talk to Ramsey and he just paints a picture for you. So the duck depression continues and they said they were doing it to kind of help us through that and just the beautiful birds. I don’t know if that really did it because now I just want to go out to the swamp and get set up and it’s still ways away. So, but yeah, it was a great conversation. Great guys. I appreciate the opportunity and that’s about it man, Good stuff.

Josh Palm: Yeah. And we do need to thank Ramsey and the guys because he actually reached out to us and suggested that we do it and we didn’t even know or realize that was going to be something. So it was a cool opportunity that kind of came to us and we didn’t want to miss it. So thanks to those guys on their flexibility and their willingness to spend a few minutes with us and allow us to kind of get the information out to you guys as listeners and they did a great job. Ryan had a lot of – and Ramsey as well had videos on Instagram during the interview and stuff and all that kind of stuff. So that was really cool. And while I was editing, sitting on the laptop, I was able to see how things were going and looked like everything was going all right. So, proud of you for flying solo for the first time and I think you did fine and probably have a new appreciation now for all the different moving parts that kind of go on with it a little bit.

Dan Hruska: I think the next thing will be actually editing and going through things that, I think we’re a couple years away from that.

Josh Palm: Yeah, maybe four more years, right? But anyway, hopefully you guys enjoyed that. We always enjoy getting opportunities to chat with guys like that and enjoy some of the cool stuff that they’ve got going, even if it is kind of vicariously through them, it’s still need opportunity. What do you think Dan anything else that you want to add to this week’s episode before we wrap it up?

Dan Hruska: Oh man, we did record that on Mother’s Day and it’s coming out a little bit late. But I think every day should be Mother’s Day and for our wives or mom’s or grandma’s, whatever. I mean, they put it on the line every day and do an excellent job that most men can’t do. So, cheers to them and cheers to all the people listening down under. We appreciate you all.

Josh Palm: Yeah, absolutely. And a couple more things just kind of housekeeping wise, be sure if you’ve not had a chance to order your HP outdoors swag, we got some hats still available on our website, you can check that out. We’re working on getting our decals and hopefully expanding that a little bit with some different options. Hopefully get that up there soon for you guys. And also would like to thank the sponsors of this week’s show, Camp Chef, Cornerstone Gun dog Academy and Gunner Kennels thank you to them. And please support the companies that support us. They are truly great partners and have been incredibly supportive of what we’ve got going on. So we can’t thank them enough. And with that Dan, I think that’s going to do it. And let’s put a ball on this one. All right, that wraps up for episode 83 of the HP Outdoors Waterfowl podcast. Make sure you check us out on iTunes or stitcher wherever you find your podcast content and get caught up on all the past episodes. For you all that use Apple if you haven’t had a chance, we do appreciate five star ratings and reviews. It helps other hunters just like you find our show. So, hopefully enjoyed this week’s chat from the Land Down Under. We will be back next week with a brand new show, brand new content. So until then, for Dan, I’m Josh. Take care.

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